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Podcaster Joe Rogan and Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. they were surprised at how the United Kingdom has become one of the most notorious countries for suppressing free speech.
During their interview on Friday’s episode of “The Joe Rogan Experience” podcast, RFK Jr. he argued that the modern Democratic Party, which he left in 2023, had become a proxy for censorship. The Democratic Alliance hopeful said this is very different from the Democratic Party he grew up with.
RFK Jr. and Rogan are both shocked at how common online research has become in the United States over the past decade and across the Atlantic.
“And you look at what’s happening in England now, you know, with people going to jail because of Twitter posts…,” RFK Jr. said.
US Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. complained that the United Kingdom had moved away from the Magna Carta that inspired the Founding Fathers in a cautionary tale about censorship. (Getty Images)
“12,000 people this year,” Rogan admitted, citing the report. “12,000 last year.”
“And this, where the Magna Carta was, you know, written,” RFK Jr. he cried. “Now it’s just a dictatorship.”
The Magna Carta was a legal document that arose out of a medieval civil war in which rebels forced King John of England to accept limits on his power. It established the principle that even the king was subject to the law and laid the foundation for fundamental rights such as due process, trial by a jury of peers, and prohibition of taxation without consent.
Over time, the Magna Carta became the foundation of English law and later inspired the Founding Fathers as they drafted the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. But even the trial, in some cases, as Rogan notes, is in the process of being abolished by the modern UK. Late last year, David Lammy, the UK’s deputy prime minister and justice secretary, announced plans to scrap criminal convictions for crimes involving less than three years in prison.
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Podcaster Joe Rogan has repeatedly complained that the United Kingdom has been sending police to the door and arresting people for political positions they have made online. (Michael S. Schwartz/Getty Images)
“Well, they dismissed the case with the jury except for the murder and rape and a few other things,” Rogan noted. “Now it’s just a jury. So, you know, whatever it is, if it’s a social media violation, there’s no sense, you know, a judge by a jury of your peers. No, you get to be judged by a jury.”
“It’s the Soviet system, it’s like Kafka,” RFK Jr. he warned, referring to Franz Kafka’s famous dystopian book “The Trial,” in which the main character is arrested and persecuted by a mysterious authority, but is never clearly told what crime he is accused of.
Rogan shared his shock at how arrests of people on social media in the UK have accelerated in recent years, often because of criticism from many people from other countries. He pointed out that the British government, rather than solving the crimes caused by mass immigration, is punishing people for complaining.
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Nearly 10 years after Brexit, Britain remains deeply divided over issues of mass immigration and multiculturalism. (Christopher Furlong/Getty Images)
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Rogan said this is a threat to the very freedom of thought, saying that the United Kingdom government is “getting nuts.”
As with anything that you perceive as likely to incite violence or anger, people get angry. They have a right to be angry. If you put them in a cage because they are angry, that’s peanuts,” he said.
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